View Poll Results: Phantom Or Mercedes

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  1. #1
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    Phantom Or Mercedes

    overall which is better?
    especially in terms of bossing and damage

    and what about even post-nerf phantom?
    then who is better agn

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    tbh i only played my GMS phantom up to level 31, but i definitely prefer my mercedes. to me it's more fun to play once you escape the plot-driven parts than phantom is, though i enjoyed the beginning plot of phantom as well.

    i don't know too much about stats but i personally find phantom a bit tedious to play. you can only steal explorer skills and i still haven't figured out how to skill swipe. lol. i should look up some guides.
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    ^ The first part (Section 1.3) Phantom the thief that became a hero

    OT : Both are good in bossing, the nerf did scale down Phantom but still he's quite good.

    Actually to choose a job, I recommend OP to look up at their playing style not their capability in certain areas.
    Mercedes are just like typical bowmen but with a few combo skills which made it quite fun from 3rd jobs onwards, you have a range of skills to grind so you won't be as boring as normal bowmen.
    Phantoms on the other hand utilized speed. On top of the skills he have, you can also steal some skills from the explorers class when you get bored and mostly buffs are going to be on your list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyDestiny View Post
    ^ The first part (Section 1.3) Phantom the thief that became a hero

    OT : Both are good in bossing, the nerf did scale down Phantom but still he's quite good.

    Actually to choose a job, I recommend OP to look up at their playing style not their capability in certain areas.
    Mercedes are just like typical bowmen but with a few combo skills which made it quite fun from 3rd jobs onwards, you have a range of skills to grind so you won't be as boring as normal bowmen.
    Phantoms on the other hand utilized speed. On top of the skills he have, you can also steal some skills from the explorers class when you get bored and mostly buffs are going to be on your list.
    so even after nerf,phantom still is better?
    which one u will more prefer then..

    since i said overall,then will be phantom more better as it has better survivability and avoibility then mercedes

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Gift received at 08-14-2012, 10:22 AM from KremeChoco
    Quote Originally Posted by newbie0516 View Post
    so even after nerf,phantom still is better?
    which one u will more prefer then..

    since i said overall,then will be phantom more better as it has better survivability and avoibility then mercedes
    As I said, if you like the job much and dedicated to play it, every job is pretty much on the same level, don't worry too much about nerfs/buffs just follow your heart. I personally preferred Phantom though because of the speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyDestiny View Post
    As I said, if you like the job much and dedicated to play it, every job is pretty much on the same level, don't worry too much about nerfs/buffs just follow your heart. I personally preferred Phantom though because of the speed.
    ok,since u said mercedes and phantom their dmg and in bossing are quiet same
    if comparing about survivability and avoidbility isit phantom more better?
    *sorry im a msea player which nt yet released phantom job
    Last edited by newbie0516; 08-25-2012 at 10:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie0516 View Post
    ok,since u said mercedes and phantom their dmg and in bossing are quiet same
    if comparing about survivability and avoidbility isit phantom more better?
    *sorry im a msea player which nt yet released phantom job
    Pretty much. Even though I've never played any other server other than MapleSEA, from what I hear of Phantoms the main utility for Skill Swipe is pretty much the buffs. Hyper Body, or Combo Attack, for example. If you're in for basically "all-progression, not many other frills" gameplay, it seems like you'd be fine with Phantoms.

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    Character Card-Wise: Neither.

    Link-Wise: Both, but if one has to win, I'd say Phantom. (You eventually hit max level, but you most likely don't hit max critical cap... at least not cheaply unless you're, well, a Phantom.)

    Character-Wise: Mercedes hands down.

    My Phantom isn't super awesomely geared, but has about 13% Luk (totaling to about 1700) at level 160. I wear 5/6 Empress and have a 128 wa Cane. Now, sure, I don't have all my buffs from before, but since the nerf, my damage has gone down. It takes me 20 minutes to solo Zak as opposed to my usual 6-10 minutes before the nerf (based on how often he uses Physical Resist, as I can't constantly cast Soul Steal and Magic Crash).

    Additionally, the utility of a Phantom has been EXTREMELY gimped as you can't "quick-swap" skills. When you add or change a skill in your captured skill UI, you have to wait about 10-30 seconds to be able to cast that skill. That's a long time in a boss fight so it's pretty much useless to swap skills, especially if you're fighting something like Hilla where you need to Magic Crash.

    Fun-Wise: Phantom will win early on as they're... newer to you and more intriguing. As you hit level 120ish, you'll begin to get bored and it'll be terrible. Mercedes is kinda reverse. It won't ever get "fun" as you're already used to the skills and whatnot, but it will definitely not be as boring as [what] Phantom deteriorates [into]. The early levels of Mercedes are kinda bad, though.
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    I prefer phantom because from what ive seen when i played with him hes fun

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    Phantoms are fun. However, they were nerfed. & so was mercedes. But I guess it depends on whether you like the ability to take skills from all different classes to transform yourself into what you wanted to be. Or, to be a mobile mobber, rusher, & bosser.

 

 
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