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    A New Alliance

    Just gonna say this up front, I'm not sure if this is in the correct section, but it seems to be the best option of all of the available ones.

    Now, to the point. Lately I've heard pretty much ALL of the elites talking about how we don't have enough room in the guilds, and that they're having to remove people left and right. They then end up getting yelled at by the members that were removed. It all becomes quite the hassle. I realize that it wouldn't exactly be the easiest thing to do, it would have quite a lot of long term benefits. We now have over ten-thousand members! That's a huge amount, and we're getting more every day. I believe it would be best for everyone if we open up a new set of guilds, another alliance. Although I do realize that there wouldn't be much contact between the two guilds, it would allow for everyone to at least be part of a Leafre Alliance. Mario could lead one, and Kreme could lead the other. Andy, as well as the other mods could split into two and one half can join the new alliance. The elites would do the same as the mods. All in all, it could assist Leafre in become so much better, not to mention that it would make the elites' lives so much easier.

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    Sorry to bother you three, but opinions? Would this even be possible? Also, elites and other mods, share your opinions too.

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    No - this is ridiculous. There is space, there's just people we don't kick because they have GP, which is what we should not be doing at all. Guild members should come first, not GP. I'll be honest, I do also keep people with high GP, but I DO find space.

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Gift received at 08-14-2012, 10:22 AM from KremeChoco
    Quote Originally Posted by KremeChoco View Post
    No - this is ridiculous. There is space, there's just people we don't kick because they have GP, which is what we should not be doing at all. Guild members should come first, not GP. I'll be honest, I do also keep people with high GP, but I DO find space.
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    Well, I like the idea of a new alliance because it would be neat, but there is space in the alliance but it is very true about getting yelled at for kicking people (Just yesterday I got yelled at by a member because he was inactive for a month and I ended up kicking him to make space.) And I also agree with kreme whenever he says that we should not be avoiding kicking members with high GP just for our guild LeveL, just yesterday I had a ton of people who wanted to join and I was running out of people with 3k- points and started to kick members with 4k points and got yelled at (And got threatened to be demoted) for simply making room. Even though the next day the guild was full and stuffed all over again. I just really don't think it's okay to yell at the Jrs. for doing as they was told, since we already get yelled at enough as it is by the members we're forced to kick.

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Gift received at 08-14-2012, 10:22 AM from KremeChoco
    Honestly, if you have a character who doesn't log on after a patch, you shouldn't be expected to keep that character in the alliance.

    Heck, I didn't expect my Phantom to stay in the alliance, but I guess 10k GP goes a long way...
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    Quote Originally Posted by WolfRaven View Post
    Honestly, if you have a character who doesn't log on after a patch, you shouldn't be expected to keep that character in the alliance.

    Heck, I didn't expect my Phantom to stay in the alliance, but I guess 10k GP goes a long way...
    That's understandable, but there are people, especially noobs, who have minimal GP, are kicked, and then end up getting mad and yelling at the Jrs. It isn't fair to the Jrs., an it isn't exactly very fun for the noobs either. I haven't ever been kicked, but I can understand both sides, which is why having more guilds would allow for members to not be kicked for quite a while, and for the Jrs to not be yelled at. And for there being space reason that Kreme used... I'm sorry, but the guilds are full from what I've been told, and I'd have to imagine that it must be pretty difficult to know the difference between someone who isn't very active in-game, to someone who's recently joined. I mean we have over 10k members, most of which have multiple accounts in the alliance. Now maybe I'm wrong, I'm not a Jr, and I don't wish to speak out of place, and I most certainly only want what's the best for Leafre, but I can only assume that it is quite the hassle to figure out who an appropriate member to kick is, to only end up being yelled at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegito View Post
    That's understandable, but there are people, especially noobs, who have minimal GP, are kicked, and then end up getting mad and yelling at the Jrs. It isn't fair to the Jrs., an it isn't exactly very fun for the noobs either. I haven't ever been kicked, but I can understand both sides, which is why having more guilds would allow for members to not be kicked for quite a while, and for the Jrs to not be yelled at. And for there being space reason that Kreme used... I'm sorry, but the guilds are full from what I've been told, and I'd have to imagine that it must be pretty difficult to know the difference between someone who isn't very active in-game, to someone who's recently joined. I mean we have over 10k members, most of which have multiple accounts in the alliance. Now maybe I'm wrong, I'm not a Jr, and I don't wish to speak out of place, and I most certainly only want what's the best for Leafre, but I can only assume that it is quite the hassle to figure out who an appropriate member to kick is, to only end up being yelled at.
    If you know what's best for Leafre, then knowing that simply splitting apart/making a second alliance would be the worst idea ever. Oh, I want to go ahead and get some people to HT with me. Let me just go relay my message to the second alliance. Who's going to go and relay messages? It's stupid, a nuisance, and unnecessary.

    Kicked? Get an invite again. It's not that hard. People should be aware that space is limited in the guild, we can't have people who leave for a trip, etc for an extended period of time and not understand why they got kicked. They get mad at the Jrs? Okay..so? Ignore their frustration, invite them, then simply ignore them. Brush it off.

    There is no way 500 people logged the alliance since the last patch. Nor for the last 2-3 patches. Jrs should not be slapped in the face for kicking inactives, they are just doing their job. There is plenty of people to kick in the alliance. Jrs/Guild Leaders need to stop being stingy about their Guild Ranking. Clearly, that's what's causing most of this commotion.

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Gift received at 08-14-2012, 10:22 AM from KremeChoco
    I'm sorta caught in the middle. I understand that having a 2nd alliance is totally retarded 'cuz that way, Leafre isn't Leafre anymore it's like Leafre (1) and Leafre (2). I really do hope to increase the amount of slots for newbies though. Heck, I would even volunteer to lead the new guild, paying all the expenses and all, but right now, making a 2nd alliance isn't a good idea, it would mess up the whole community.

    Quote Originally Posted by KremeChoco;98551
    Kicked? Get an invite again. It's not that hard. People should be aware that space is limited in the guild, we can't have people who leave for a trip, etc for an extended period of time and not understand why they got kicked. They get mad at the Jrs? Okay..so? Ignore their frustration, invite them, then simply ignore them. [U
    Brush it off[/U].
    Yeah, I get the kick thing a lot on my other characters, even though I'm an active member. Well, I've got an idea, hopefully it's legitimate enough. Le admins could start a section for taking the Leafre members' characters' attendance. The Leafre members should post the IGNs of the characters they wanna keep in the alliance (maybe make a limit and allow the members extend their limit by getting achievements on the forums or something). This "taking-attendance" thing should be held possibly before any patches (excluding minor ones) and for the ones that didn't show up to get their IGNs marked gets kicked. Anyways, I'm just suggesting. xD It DOES require a lot of work having to check the IGNs so frequently, but yeah.

    I do hope that the GMs do extend the amount of guilds we can have in an alliance, it would make our lives a lot easier. xD

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    Ok we need some kind of Guild Attendance thing I have like tons Jrs in Imperial
    Decryption,HSandBless,Ithtom,Izzinator,lMinato,Nin jabow,Spayde
    Tonedeaf. "2 of mine Arkaris and Arkirion"

    I have like a Ton of Izzy and Crowbait Characters in here xD

    I'm not sure If I should delete anyway back to Guild Attendance We need to think up of some way to keep track of whos active :(

    I'll try to think of ideas ~

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Gift received at 08-14-2012, 10:22 AM from KremeChoco
    Quote Originally Posted by Imaginal View Post
    Ok we need some kind of Guild Attendance thing I have like tons Jrs in Imperial
    Decryption,HSandBless,Ithtom,Izzinator,lMinato,Nin jabow,Spayde
    Tonedeaf. "2 of mine Arkaris and Arkirion"

    I have like a Ton of Izzy and Crowbait Characters in here xD

    I'm not sure If I should delete anyway back to Guild Attendance We need to think up of some way to keep track of whos active :(

    I'll try to think of ideas ~
    I kinda like Phy's idea. Open a stickied thread for everyone to post the IGNs of the character/s that they wish to be kept in the guild, with a maximum of X per person (possibly staff members could have immunity to the limit and donors could surpass the limit by Y). All characters that are not listed get kicked. Seems fair. Everyone can be in the Alliance, but only if they post their main IGN/s in the thread. Every D amount of time that goes by, we could have an update, a new thread where everyone posts their IGNs again, all who aren't listed get kicked. And @KremeChoco I understand your point on that. It would be pretty difficult to arrange something between the two alliances... Then again, their is the forum chat box, but it still would be difficult.

 

 
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