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    Lightbulb [Guide]Learning Beginner Korean With Koshenya

    Hello everyone~ I've recently noticed many users with the desire to learn Korean grammar and words, not just keystrokes. Hoping to help people with the actual language of Korean, this thread was created! Hopefully, by the end of this post, you will be able to send simple messages to Korean players with confidence, and also be able to understand their responses. Note: I will be updating this guide regularly if people do indeed find it useful.

    This guide is meant for people who are already comfortable with the Hangul alphabet. This is NOT for learning the corresponding keys on the keyboard that go with phrases. If you aren't familiar with the Korean alphabet, I highly suggest this. Don't forget to click on the photo to zoom in.


    Now, with those few disclaimers out of our way, let's get started! Please use ctrl+f to navigate the subtopics of this guide.

    Alphabet Rules (In Progress)
    Here is a quirk with Korean you probably didn't know:

    The consonants ㅂ,ㅈ,ㄷ,ㄱ(,ㄴ,ㅁ) in reality have two forms, although the ones in parenthesis less so. Basically, at the start of a word or sentence, these consonants are pronounced 'stiffly' if you will. This is why many people equate them to 'b, p' for ㅂ for example, because it could be pronounced two ways.

    In the guide, I put 저 as "cheo." The ㅈ is pronounced as a 'ch' or ㅊ when it's in the beginning of a word or phrase, while when it is in the middle, it is spoken as "j." Honestly, romanization is your #1 enemy with reading Korean. It can be so confusing/ mind boggling to read romanized Korean. If the first English letter is 'stiffly' and the second is 'softly,' here is a translation of those consonants:

    ㅂ-p, b
    ㅈ-ch, j
    ㄷ-t, d
    ㄱ-k, g
    (ㄴ-d, n
    ㅁ-b, m)

    The ones in parenthesis are uncommon to be heard as (d/b), but you will hear it for certain words like- 물-*bool* 'water', (and) 누구-*doogoo* 'who.'

    Also, the Korean vowels ㅓ and ㅡ are extremely hard for English speakers to pronounce or even represent in English letters! Their romanizations, however, are ㅓ-eo and ㅡ-eu. If you have to just pronounce them as closely as possible (you can't get your mouth to make those sounds), go for ㅓas ㅗ and ㅡ as ㅜ.

    Hope this helped!

    Part 1:
    INTRO :D

    Korean is honestly most likely one of the easiest languages to learn for English speakers. Korean uses a very simple alphabet, which means that memorizing a buttload of characters isn't necessary to read it. However, this does mean spelling is involved (some words are pronounced the same but written differently). In fact, in Korean, a single word can have tons of different, totally unrelated uses or meanings. ex:

    이-
    1)The number 2,
    2)This (referring to another noun), and
    3)Subject particle.

    The fact that Korean has these homophones is to me an advantage. Why, you ask? Well, when looking up a word with Google Translate (pretty reliable for just one word), you can see several different definitions. So, by looking up just one word, you could learn many!

    TL;DR~ Don't be intimidated at all by Korean. For the purposes of us KMS players, it is a very simple language to learn, and certain strategies can get you ahead even quicker.

    USING KNOWLEDGE WE DON'T KNOW WE HAVE(;

    Simply learning Hangul, which you have done already, is the first step to becoming fluent, or at least very good with Korean. I actually met a Mexican GMS player who had played GMS for 6 years casually, and had become fluent in reading and writing MapleStory English. However, Americans playing KMS won't be able to learn a thing if they don't know the alphabet. This is why whenever I see a short KMS message (quest, notice, etc), I read it out loud. This helps me make connections between similar dialogues, and actually learn Korean. -Granted, I'm not looking to spend 6 years to become fluent, so I do other things as well...-

    The majority of what people really want to be able to understand in KMS tend to be contained into these two categories: Map/mob/item names, and Korean players. Fully understanding an entire quest story line isn't necessary to our enjoyment of the game. In fact, I frequently hold the enter button on quests in GMS...

    Well here's the good news: If you have ever played GMS before, you will know town names and can probably guess the names of other stuff! The majority of these "names" are written in Korean, but are actually mutuably understandable in English. These are called 'borrowed words.' Here are some MapleStory examples:

    파티(pati)-Party
    퀘스트(kwest)-Quest
    아이템(aitem)-Item

    Of course it takes practice to recognize the English contained within KMS. However, by pronouncing the Hangul spelling out loud, I can easily understand what the word is.

    TL;DR~ By knowing Hangul, we already can understand at least 10% of the relevant things in KMS, if we practice pronouncing them. In addition, knowing Hangul can gradually help us learn Korean through simply playing the game.

    FINALLY, SOME ACTUAL GRAMMAR.

    You've finally reached the meat of this guide, heheheh... This is where the real hell begins! Just kidding, Korean grammar is actually much easier than English.

    Korean uses roughly the same grammatical concept as Japanese. 'Particles' show the relationship between words. Subjects tend to be at the beginning, and verbs are ALWAYS last. Don't forget the verb part, okay?

    Let's learn basic words:

    나(na)-I, me~ You will use this word to refer to yourself the most in KMS above all others. While this word is technically 'casual,' players in KMS will switch to this form after a few seconds of talking with you. In real life Korea, however, it can take years to get on a personal enough basis to use this word.
    저(cheo)-I, me~ The more formal version, more important to understand than to use for MapleStory.
    님(nim)-Hmm, I don't really know how to translate this. Maybe think of it as "Mr/Mrs." Although it doesn't quite work like that. In KMS, you will get addressed with this frequently. It will be used with part of your ign or part of your class. Ex-Your ign is 헬로데어. You will likely get addressed as '헬님.' It basically takes the first part of the IGN and adds "님." It will also be used similarly with your class. Say your class is Mercedes(메르세데스). You might be addressed as '메르세님.' The reason a longer portion of the word is added to 님 is because the first character probably isn't unique enough to make sense. It's the same reason why we abbreviate Mercedes to Merc instead of Me or Mer.

    Let's learn the most common particle:
    은/는-Before you get freaked out that there are two forms, listen to me. It's really simple! All you have to do is determine if the word you want to add it to ends in a consonant or a vowel. For vowel endings, add 는. Consonants 은.

    Let's use!

    You can definitely use the full form of 는 with your 'I/me' words. This would be 나는, 저는. However, those sound a bit choppy to native speakers. It's the equivalent of saying "I am" instead of "I'm." That's why I suggest you to use 난 and 전 instead of 나는 and 저는.

    Saying our names- Firstly, you'll want to find the Korean spelling of your name. If needed, simply type your name into Google Translate and translate it into Korean. Since my name is Mike, I write my name in Korean as 마이크. It's very simple~

    Now! In English, I frequently say "I'm Mike" when meeting new people. So, I would say the same thing in Korean. 전 마이크.. there's something missing though. It's just like the Japanese desu. We need to finish the sentence somehow. Let's use 입니다. Note~ 입니다 is only for the more respectful/polite situations- For use with 저 only. With 나, you don't really have to add anything, since you aren't trying to impress anyone.

    Put it all together:

    전 마이크 입니다.~I'm Mike. (Polite)
    난 마이크.~I'm Mike. (Informal, impolite)

    Since we haven't learned verbs or adjectives yet, we could also use our class.

    전 비숍 입니다.~I'm a Bishop. (Polite)
    난 비숍.~I'm a Bishop. (Informal, impolite)

    I won't be listing the spellings of classes, because this is an opportunity to learn spelling by clicking on people!

    THE "HAVE" STRUCTURE.

    The have structure is probably the easiest to learn in Korean, and useful for MapleStory. Simply add 있어요(formal), or 있어(informal) to show you have the object :P.

    전 비숍 입니다. 홀리 심볼 있어요.~I'm a Bishop. I have Holy Symbol. (Polite)
    난 비숍. 홀리 심볼 있어.~I'm a Bishop. I have Holy Symbol. (Informal, impolite)

    You know so much Korean already! Remember, you can always find spellings in Maple itself! (Skill windows, Character windows, Quests, Item names)

    TL;DR~ Well, you might have to just read that one, kid!


    Part 1: Practice:
    If you are interested in practicing your new skills, pm me your responses to the following questions in Korean:
    1) What character class are you?(formal)
    2) What character class are you?(informal)
    3) What skills do you have?(choose 1-informal)
    4) What skills do you have?(choose 1-formal)
    5) What's your name?(first-formal)
    6) What's your nickname?(informal)

    That's it for now!

    To be continued- I hope you have found this guide useful so far. If you have any suggestions, questions, or simply wish to practice Korean, feel free to add comments
    Last edited by Koshenya; 12-04-2013 at 03:58 AM. Reason: Added practice option
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    I think You should add some stuff, just for future reference xD.
    -Grammar
    In the Hangul language, the characters always go from left to right, and top to bottom.
    Sometimes you'll see some letters like this '믋' With 4 characters in a single letter, but the letter ㅂ, is actually the start of another letter, for example 밃연.
    The easiest ways to remember the easiest characters in Hangul (ㅗ ㅜ ㅓ ㅏ). When the sun goes (O)ver the land (as in the character ㅡ) is makes the sound in the parentheses "O". When the sun is (U)nder the land, it makes the sound 'eu' or you could say it like a simple 'ew'. When the sun sets to the west, It is Bef(o)re Night time. When it rises to the east. When the sun rises to the east of the human, It is (A)fter dawn. And finally, the character represents the human, and is pronounced Tr(ee) ㅣ.
    And for those letters that have doubles, like ㅃㅉㄸㄲㅛㅠ, You basiclly stress the sound more than before.
    Try and read this xd; 유&아이. It is pronounced 'yu & a, i'. For the letter ㅇ, It is basiclly a Null sound, nothing, no good. When this character is involved, Just make the regular sound of the letter.

    -Alphabet (Hangul)
    This simple thing could work wonders. Just with this image, it could be a lifesaver at sometimes xd.

    You can make all of Hangul vowels with this technique that include the sky, earth and human. which this technique can make 10 vowels, out of simple vowels.

    For the Alphabet all you need to learn is 3 vowels, and 5 consonants to start you off, like this

    Start off with these ㄱ ㄴ ㅁ ㅅ ㅇ, . ㅡ ㅣ, The first 5 consonants and 3 vowels (The . is taken from the . on ㅗ,ㅜ,ㅓ,ㅏ.), and with simple strokes, you can make the whole hangul alphabet, easily.

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Gift received at 08-14-2012, 11:22 AM from KremeChoco
    Thanks for the comment! I see now that I will definitely have to be adding a full Hangul section, since the link I provided doesn't really go into specifics, just provides more of a general picture. Thanks for your method! I'll try to incorporate everything you said :P
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    thanks, i see great potential in this guide! it'll definitely help me a lot with learning korean. I have some suggestions though:

    it'll be of great help if you could also have sections on community and culture, or just some general things about how people say go about getting into pqs with others, or trades, or something. i don't know how kms is like, but in jms they say nice to meet you before every pq, and thanks for the hard work at the end... is there such cultures in kms as well? I'd really appreciate it if you could share/teach about those :) cos as it is right now, i don't even have the courage to step into the pq area cos i just can't communicate. thanks XD

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    Is every character a sound like in Japanese and Chinese?

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    Eh, I wouldn't say so. In korean history the emperor of Korea at the time decided to suddenly change the written language to modern Hangul. This is how he taught the entire country of Korea how to read and write korean, so basiclly the emporer changed up the whole language from other languages like japanese or chinese.
    Korean- 14 consonants and 10 vowels.
    Japanese- you need to know all 48 characters of both hiragana and katakana and about 2000 kanji but there are actually about 10000 kanji altogether. (It's a mix of Kanji, Hiragana, and katakana)
    Chinese- The Chinese writing system (composed of ideograms, or symbols that convey meaning) contains over 40,000 - 50,000 characters.
    So the emporer changed alot of things like alphabet, writing system, sound, pronunciation etc.

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    So in korean there's only...24 syllables? ._.

    Edit: Oh I sort of get it now ^o^

    ㅅ=S ㅣ=i
    시=si

    So it's kind of like english then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TVXTommy View Post
    So in korean there's only...24 syllables? ._.

    Edit: Oh I sort of get it now ^o^

    ㅅ=S ㅣ=i
    시=si

    So it's kind of like english then?
    The alphabet at least is similar to English, except for several differences. Firstly, it's arranged in blocks rather than being left to right. Secondly, vowels in Korean have fixed values, unlike English. This is an advantage to us learners(:

    As a side note, try not to equate the letters to English letters. They are actually slightly different. In addition, 시 is pronounced "shee." Asian languages like to turn 's' into 'sh' when they combine with an 'ee' sound XD.

    Sorry for the lateness of my reply. I think we can expect a second part of the guide to be edited in by tomorrow.
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    Ah I see :c

    Well do you have any recommendations on learning tools? Besides Rosetta Stone of course.

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    This Should be moved 2 Guides.

    Very Useful
    Oh Hi There ;)

 

 
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