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    David's Guide for passing LD's (Look Here for Advanced Tips!)

    [/B]Note: You should check out the other LD guides (there's another sticked in KMS discussion by @Supermarioz5, and another made by someone on this same section somewhere.)
    I ALLOW THIS GUIDE TO BE EDITED AND RESHARED ANYWHERE ELSE WITHOUT PERMISSION OR CREDITS GIVEN.
    THIS GUIDE DOES NOT GUARANTEE SUCCESS. THIS GUIDE IS ONLY MEANT TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR PROBLEMS IN REGARDS TO LD'S AND INFORMATION THAT MAY HELP YOU IN SOLVING THEM / LEARNING KOREAN TYPE.
    Essentially, this guide can't stand by itself, i consider this to be the "Advanced Class", which always assumes you got the basics down.
    Also, sentences or words marked with (?) means i have troubling remembering and/or are hard to test or / the nature of testing those statements are dangerous

    Edit History:
    V 2.0: Updated/clarified missing information
    V 1.0: Started Guide

    Table of Contents
    [i]: LD example and what to expect
    [ii]: Cluster Types (Lolclusters)
    [iii]: Other Tips / Frequently asked questions (skip here if you know how to do everything)

    [i]: LD example and what to expect
    LD example


    The new LDs have a back image traveling across the screen, ignore it.
    The Red # is the # of tries you can do. you can only do 2 trys, and then it's over (if you fail twice, yer screwed)
    The timer counts down from 1 minute. This doesn't reset if you fail the first captcha.
    You Cannot space out the characters like:
    안 간우 = BAD
    안간우 = GOOD!
    However, you may press spacebar if all those symbols clumping together makes you a little comfortable, it's just stop writing the charcter in the LD. (tested myself)

    Quote Originally Posted by Most of the Community
    So, what's the secret to passing LD's David? We've seen the translation guides and we're wondering how you do it; rather, how you pass LD's quickly (to your claims?)
    There's these main tricks to LD's. I have a couple more but their more supplemental than anything.

    Tip 1: Practice, Practice, and know what the -bleep- you're doing

    Okay, i lied, that was 2 in one. who cares, let's get on with it.
    Basically, the korean language is based of a series of consonants and vowels.
    Korean Keyboard w/consonants and vowels

    Use this as a cheatsheat! copy and paste onto word, make it bigger, then print it out and look at it whenever you have a tough spot in an LD.

    Knowing the symbols are important, look at the korean keyboard I posted a little earlier to see what I mean.
    All of those individual symbols are assigned their own key on the keyboard, just like english.
    For example: ㅁ= a (in terms of key placement, not the actual sound or english equivalent itself)
    ㅇ = d and o = ㅐ so on and so forth.
    Korean also has consonants and vowels, consonants are on the left side and vowels are on the right.
    It all starts, with a consonant.
    a group of consonants and vowels i call a "cluster"; I number clusters by the number of consonants + vowels (in other words, the # of keys you have to press)
    For example:
    우 = a Cluster of 2 (a Consonant + a vowel)
    위 = a Cluster of 3 (a Consonant + 2 vowels)
    윈 = a Cluster of 4 (a Consonant + 2 Vowels + another Consonant)

    Hold on, did you notice something about the above clusters?
    Let me show you keystrokes for those.
    우 = dn
    위 = dnl
    윈 = dnls
    I'll let you find out what that means for yerself, but those aren't all the possible cluster combos. THESE ARE!

    [ii]: Cluster types

    Basic two cluster
    One of the most common cluster you'll see.
    이 = dl (ㅇ+ ㅣ)
    consonant plus another vowel. simple!

    Three clusters (Another very common one)
    딘 = els (ㄷ + ㅣ + ㄴ) [ Consonant + vowel +consonant]
    -or-
    top to bottom format:
    숭 = tnd (ㅅ + ㅜ + ㅇ) [Consonant + vowel + consonant]
    -OR-
    consonant + bottom vowel + right vowel
    위 = dnl (ㅇ + ㅜ + ㅣ) [Consonant + vowel + vowel]

    Four Clusters (Rarest, but are found in LD's)
    Consonant + bottom vowel + vowel to the right + bottom consonant
    뮌 = anls
    -OR-
    Consonant + Top right vowel + bottom left consonant + bottom right consonant
    Note: i have actuallly never seen this in an actual maple LD, but the practice LD has a combo like this, so i put it up just in case
    닭 = ekfr (ㄷ + ㅏ + ㄹ + ㄱ)

    [iii]: Other Tips / Frequently Asked Questions
    Q: What is this?

    A: That 4th cluster's (from left to right) consonant is actually just a ㅌ = x


    Q: What is most common in a LD?
    A: besides 2 and 3 clusters, the asdf and jklm keys appear alot ㅁㄴㅇㄹ <- (consonants) ㅓㅏㅣㅡ <- (Vowels) ; r and e appear alot also (ㄱ ㄷ) ; I've seen also X quite often (ㅌ) and z (ㅋ) v (ㅍ) [consonants] and p (ㅖ), h (ㅗ), n (ㅜ), and o (ㅐ) for vowels
    i also sometimes see c (ㅊ) and w (ㅈ) [consonants]

    Q: How many LD's can i fail in a single week?
    A: i'm not quite sure, but i wouldn't push it though. the week resets on he time you failed your first LD. (haven't tested for myself)

    Q: i'm trying to find something like this: 가 but all i see is ㄱ and ㅏ?
    A: Those two are the troll korean letters, r (ㄱ) and z (ㅋ) when they're paried up with a vowel turn into something like this 가 카 키 기 거 커 크 그

    Q: How to tell fake from real lines?
    A: If you want to tell between actual korean and fake lines, look at the colors, sometimes the false lines go into the real ones, but they should be (relatively) the same color if they're real.
    Other than that, it's really hard to tell the fake lines; real lines are fairly thick.

    Q: I TYPED THAT LD RIGHT! WHY DID IT KICK ME FROM MY MAP? I EVEN DOUBLE CHECKED!
    A: You got it wrong. Sorry. You may be confusing letters, accidentally typed in a letter wrong, or something.
    Just keep on practicing and you'll be alright.

    --Credits--
    Mucho Thanks to my Korean mother for that last 4 cluster + example and verifying what i wrote.
    Thanks to Imgur for hosting all images.
    Last edited by David; 01-04-2013 at 01:27 AM. Reason: Added more stuff / updated it so it's recent

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    Wow! good job man ! i'm waiting for the update (:
    but i remember that in one of the guides here, there was a site to "train" on the LD, but i think the link was broken (not for sure), can you get me a new one please ? thanks (:

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Stroame_ View Post
    Wow! good job man ! i'm waiting for the update (:
    but i remember that in one of the guides here, there was a site to "train" on the LD, but i think the link was broken (not for sure), can you get me a new one please ? thanks (:
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1200405/Web/...tor/index.html

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    Thanks, forgot this existed.

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    Oh man, I just read up on this LD stuff and it makes me kind of nervous. Especially with the 30 day ban and all. How many can you fail before you are banned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SinoShin View Post
    Oh man, I just read up on this LD stuff and it makes me kind of nervous. Especially with the 30 day ban and all. How many can you fail before you are banned?
    From what i've heard, you can't fail 5 ld's in a 168 hour period. (ie: a week from when you failed first LD)
    i wouldn't push it though, i haven't confirmed this myself.

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    How often do people get a LD pop up for them..?

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    Good job with the guide x3

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    Thanks for the tips David, I hope it'll help me tackling these damn LDs, which I fail constantly.
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